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The Honor of the Queen (Honor Harrington #2) by David Weber

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Read Online Email Kindle Ebook to me. View Larger Image. Add to Wishlist. And we face all of that, Admiral, all those health hazards and consequences, despite nine hundred years—almost a millennium —of adaptation. Can you truly imagine what it was like for the first generation? Or the second? This is an interesting way of underscoring the difference between the Graysons and the Manticorans. The Graysons are barely above late 20th century technology, though they have both impeller and hyper drives. Actually, the best thing to do is to imagine that they are what the people of the 50s thought the people of the early 21st century would be, technologically speaking.

In a subtle way, Weber is preparing us for what Yanakov is going to tell us about those first and second generations.

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Graysons think of living about as long as us — the Biblical life expectancy, even — as evidence of their struggle. In a place where, in order to survive, we all had to produce children as quickly as possible for as long as possible?

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What would that do to our culture? That cuts both ways, as Courvosier is about to realize. Of the babies born living, half were too badly damaged to survive infancy, and our survival was so precarious there was no possible way to divert resources to keep them alive. Even today there are none. The traditions of our founding die too hard for that, and the first generations had too desperate a need for soil which would support terrestrial food crops.

This is a vital point to understand about this discussion. Even if this were the only point of departure, and even though this practice has apparently been stopped for many decades, there is no way that Grayson would be an analog for faithful Christian culture today.

More on that later. The Grayson leaned back and waved a hand vaguely before him. No lights had been turned on, and Courvosier heard the pain in his voice through the gathering dimness. Some of us still are, though I suspect the fire has dimmed—or mellowed, perhaps—in most of us. But we were certainly zealots then, and some of the Founding Fathers blamed their women for what was happening, because, I think, it was so much easier to do that than to bleed for them. And, of course, there was their own pain when their sons and daughters died.

Actually, several points. I pride myself on my knowledge of history, yet truth to tell, I never thought this deeply about it until I was forced up against the differences between us and you, and I suspect few Graysons ever really delve deep enough to understand how and why we became what we are. Is it different for Manticorans? Here Courvosier is coming to grips with his own limitations.

He, too, though he was ready to deal with the Graysons, just as Yanakov thought he was ready to deal with the Manticorans. Follow the link for more details. It does an excellent job of showing how small differences can mean big misunderstandings across cultural boundaries, even within supposedly related cultures.

But those early days were terrible ones for us. Our female births outnumber male by three to one; if we were to sustain a viable population, every potential father had to begin begetting children as soon as possible and spread his genes as widely as he could before Grayson killed him, so our households grew.

It was a survival trait which tied in only too well with our religious beliefs. They were property. Bearers of children. Yanakov fell silent again, and Courvosier studied his profile against the fading, bloody sunset. People like Honor Harrington were the real Manticore. People who made the Kingdom better than it dreamed it could be, made it live up to its ideals whether it wanted to or not, because they believed in those ideals and made others believe with them.

umyqupyquk.ga And perhaps, he thought, people like Bernard Yanakov were the real Grayson. See that? Over generations of struggle, the struggle became everything. Just as a society faced with constant war would see sons as necessary cannon-fodder, so too does Grayson see their daughters as future incubators. Josiah, as we are told, was a just man who did everything as David had done, staying as true to God as he knew how.

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And yet he discovered how far he and his people had strayed, and insisted that the Book of the Law be proclaimed throughout the land, instead of put aside in the Temple as it had been. Once put aside in a mostly illiterate culture even the king was illiterate and had to have the Book of the Law read to him , it was quickly forgotten. As another great man once said, these things are not passed on in the bloodstream. They must be taught. So too do I imagine Grayson coming face-to-face with other cultures after a long isolation, and being horrified. Not just at what they would see as wicked, modern cultures, but at the challenge they represent.

They knew, and they could have responded as Christians do today, and have done throughout the ages: they are in the world, but not of it. If not for this, then the behavior of the Graysons is inexplicably hypocritical. If they were rejecting the world outside, if they were simply uber-traditionalists and nothing more, then it would make no sense. They retain their culture, even alongside their technological bootstrapping.

Why did they wait so long to rejoin the galaxy, and why did they try to avoid it when they so desperately needed modern innovations to protect their society? The answer is simple. Instead of rending their garments and decrying their sins, they shrank back and hid. Like the institutionalized treatment of women, it became just another thing they never questioned. Once that was unleashed, well. What culture, then, are the Graysons? Trying to draw a parallel for anything beyond superficial elements is an exercise in futility. The most you can do that with is what Weber already admitted to and, in fact, has never made a secret of : that Honor Harrington is based on a combination of Lord Admiral Nelson and Horatio Hornblower, and that this is why there are British and French elements in the series in the first place.

One of the easiest things to do as a reader is assume that the author is using a book to explore ideas that he or she holds.

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